The Vydex/STC thing continues. Apparently, according to at least two bods, I should edit one of my posts. The one in which I reported the posting of a rumored (note that word) raid by Trading Standards of Vydex premises.
It seems to have passed some by that I also posted the WHOLE letter of Vydex's response a mere day or so later. Balance and counter balance I think. One comment, open to interpretation, of mine was that products sold by the Whey Consortium (I co-own said company) were good to go as it were and were not made by Vydex. Just about as factual as you can get yet some did not like this...
Well 'me no care'. I don't think that there's a single thing wrong with either post and I've yet to have a cease and desist letter from a solicitor. So.... rssppp!
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Tuesday, 8 June 2010
Tuesday, 18 May 2010
The did it or did it not happen raid of Vydex
Lots of claims and counter claims. Thus far and having seen their (Vydex's) open letter yesterday the big issue of the day seems to be that said raid may NOT have taken place and the person claiming it did could be getting a solicitors letter soon. The lesser issue of the Dextralose (TM) not containing asartame but being included in word for word identical product descriptions of a few supplement companies protein products is still on the table.
I've just seen Vydex's letter has been made public so here it is:
Open Letter in reply to the Malicious Attack on Vydex and Others
17th May 2010
You may well, by now, have read the malicious false attacks on Vydex and Others in a number of Chat forums over the last few days.
We have already informed the Trading Standards Office, they are keenly interested in anyone abusing their service and Office to spread defamatory false rumours. The OFT (Cardiff) will confirm that no such action has taken place against Vydex, nor is there any such action pending.
We can, if required to do so, demonstrate that we do not use nor do we hold in stock the sweetener Aspartame®. We can also confirm that the Sweetening agent Dextralose® does not contain Aspartame. Brands such as Coca-Cola®, Red Bull®, and a number of Top name American Protein brands do however contain Aspartame®.
The character assassination attempt on me personally, only leads me to conclude that there are a number of individuals that have failed reach up to my standards of achievement so their only option, as they see it, is to attempt to drag me down to their own shallow standard. I find this quite saddening to be honest, and whilst I feel contempt for their behaviour, I also feel rather sorry for them.
We already know the identity of the instigators of the malicious, false attacks. We know the origins and we also now believe we know the catalyst for them. It appears obvious to us that our business strategy, customer service and high quality products has had an influence on the down turn in trade for the Brands owned by these individuals and their co-conspirators, two of whom, are in the Bristol area! (Nothing whatsoever to do with Prolab, I hasten to add!).
All involved in this spurious plot were indiscrete and even egotistical enough to leave a trail behind them that was so very easy to follow and link up that even a moonshine soaked, old bloodhound could follow!
They set out to cause a chain of libellous and false information to circulate within the Supplement / Forum scene, which they hoped would result in severe damage to out reputation and that of others. These faceless but not so anonymous individuals appear to be under some illusion that they are “clever”. Well it appears that they are not!
What they achieved is the exact opposite. There is now a wave of discussed and appellation building against them, which may well result in a further loss of confidence and thus, demand for their Brands.
There is a very strong possibility that legal action will follow against those involved. If however, a public written full retraction and apology is published in all the forums the malicious attacks were published, we will accept this and move on and put an end to the matter.
Melvyn John MIC.MED. Dip Psychol.
Managing Director
Vydex Corporation Ltd
I've just seen Vydex's letter has been made public so here it is:
Open Letter in reply to the Malicious Attack on Vydex and Others
17th May 2010
You may well, by now, have read the malicious false attacks on Vydex and Others in a number of Chat forums over the last few days.
We have already informed the Trading Standards Office, they are keenly interested in anyone abusing their service and Office to spread defamatory false rumours. The OFT (Cardiff) will confirm that no such action has taken place against Vydex, nor is there any such action pending.
We can, if required to do so, demonstrate that we do not use nor do we hold in stock the sweetener Aspartame®. We can also confirm that the Sweetening agent Dextralose® does not contain Aspartame. Brands such as Coca-Cola®, Red Bull®, and a number of Top name American Protein brands do however contain Aspartame®.
The character assassination attempt on me personally, only leads me to conclude that there are a number of individuals that have failed reach up to my standards of achievement so their only option, as they see it, is to attempt to drag me down to their own shallow standard. I find this quite saddening to be honest, and whilst I feel contempt for their behaviour, I also feel rather sorry for them.
We already know the identity of the instigators of the malicious, false attacks. We know the origins and we also now believe we know the catalyst for them. It appears obvious to us that our business strategy, customer service and high quality products has had an influence on the down turn in trade for the Brands owned by these individuals and their co-conspirators, two of whom, are in the Bristol area! (Nothing whatsoever to do with Prolab, I hasten to add!).
All involved in this spurious plot were indiscrete and even egotistical enough to leave a trail behind them that was so very easy to follow and link up that even a moonshine soaked, old bloodhound could follow!
They set out to cause a chain of libellous and false information to circulate within the Supplement / Forum scene, which they hoped would result in severe damage to out reputation and that of others. These faceless but not so anonymous individuals appear to be under some illusion that they are “clever”. Well it appears that they are not!
What they achieved is the exact opposite. There is now a wave of discussed and appellation building against them, which may well result in a further loss of confidence and thus, demand for their Brands.
There is a very strong possibility that legal action will follow against those involved. If however, a public written full retraction and apology is published in all the forums the malicious attacks were published, we will accept this and move on and put an end to the matter.
Melvyn John MIC.MED. Dip Psychol.
Managing Director
Vydex Corporation Ltd
Monday, 17 May 2010
Industry news... did the shit hit the fan Friday?
This past weekend has seen a flurry of quickly removed posts appear and disappear on various UK and even US Bodybuilding forums. Relating to an apparent (did it or did it not happen?) raid of Vydex. I'll get in my disclaimer now: all is rumor and 'word on the street' until we hear otherwise. But still... what a weekend!
Vydex, as well as making their own branded products, is a contract manufacturer of a few small to medium brands here in the UK who are based in Cardiff. Claims of a raid by Trading Standards appeared on Friday with the word being that TS took away samples of several products. Posts on several of the larger UK forums appeared only to be removed just as quickly.
One giant clue as to which companies they were making products for or providing ingredients too seems to have been the rather foolishly over-looked use of a sweetener they called 'Dextrolose' which is a trade marked name used by one company only. See above. Some of the companies with Dextrolose in their product ingredient descriptions then made the claim that their product was aspartame free when, in fact, Dextrolose is a combo which includes aspartame. It's of interest (and not hard to search for) that Vydex has a few smaller companies which they seem to own interests in so can claim to have supplied ingredients to rather than made products for. A search of former employees and directors throws light upon this.
Rather than me blog who and what I'll let you take advantage of Google and search for yourself. See what brands come up. If they are furiously altering their sites today check out the labels on products in your gym. Google will, of course, take a few days to catch up so even with changes made it'll direct you to their sites. There's a list on one forum which makes it easy to check. As one member commented on Bodybuildingpro 'surely the companies asking someone to make them a product should know something about said product'?
The bigger issue, as indeed it should be, is one of the serious levels of competition that has been piling up the last few years. When, as per another forums comment, your local gym and instructors were producing their own labeled products at prices BELOW the rest of the market questions needed to be asked. Least of all is 'how can they beat the big boys?'. Answer they can't unless they're bending the rules.
It's simple economics. If WPC, as is, costs around £5.00 a kilo wholesale and then you add in flavours etc, add also the usual overheads, margins and so on then anyone offering 2.25kg for £25.00 delivered is selling you magic beans.
Let's see if it goes quiet and blows over or whether people will be talking about which brands CAN be trusted when the industry and consumers meet at Bodypower. See you there.
Vydex, as well as making their own branded products, is a contract manufacturer of a few small to medium brands here in the UK who are based in Cardiff. Claims of a raid by Trading Standards appeared on Friday with the word being that TS took away samples of several products. Posts on several of the larger UK forums appeared only to be removed just as quickly.
One giant clue as to which companies they were making products for or providing ingredients too seems to have been the rather foolishly over-looked use of a sweetener they called 'Dextrolose' which is a trade marked name used by one company only. See above. Some of the companies with Dextrolose in their product ingredient descriptions then made the claim that their product was aspartame free when, in fact, Dextrolose is a combo which includes aspartame. It's of interest (and not hard to search for) that Vydex has a few smaller companies which they seem to own interests in so can claim to have supplied ingredients to rather than made products for. A search of former employees and directors throws light upon this.
Rather than me blog who and what I'll let you take advantage of Google and search for yourself. See what brands come up. If they are furiously altering their sites today check out the labels on products in your gym. Google will, of course, take a few days to catch up so even with changes made it'll direct you to their sites. There's a list on one forum which makes it easy to check. As one member commented on Bodybuildingpro 'surely the companies asking someone to make them a product should know something about said product'?
The bigger issue, as indeed it should be, is one of the serious levels of competition that has been piling up the last few years. When, as per another forums comment, your local gym and instructors were producing their own labeled products at prices BELOW the rest of the market questions needed to be asked. Least of all is 'how can they beat the big boys?'. Answer they can't unless they're bending the rules.
It's simple economics. If WPC, as is, costs around £5.00 a kilo wholesale and then you add in flavours etc, add also the usual overheads, margins and so on then anyone offering 2.25kg for £25.00 delivered is selling you magic beans.
Let's see if it goes quiet and blows over or whether people will be talking about which brands CAN be trusted when the industry and consumers meet at Bodypower. See you there.
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